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also lists tamerlan's birthplace as russia. still not clear what happened after all of that that led tamerlan and his brother to allegedly commit these crimes. we also learned that federal authorities armed with a search warrant raided a new bedford apartment today. south of boston. a source telling us the raid is part of the joint terrorism task force's investigation into whether or not the bombers acted alone. we will see where that goes. shep? >> shepard: mike bow detective from mike beaudet from our norman tonight. oklahoma territory was home to several native american tribes that had been forced out of the southeast. but one when americans realized the land's potential for farming, perspective settlers pressed the government to open up indian territory. president benjamin harrison agreed and gave folks seven weeks to prepare. at high noon a cannon fired a single shot and thousands took off towards the open plot. by night fall, entire towns were born across a 2 million-acre stretch. oklahoma would officially become a state
also lists tamerlan's birthplace as russia. still not clear what happened after all of that that led tamerlan and his brother to allegedly commit these crimes. we also learned that federal authorities armed with a search warrant raided a new bedford apartment today. south of boston. a source telling us the raid is part of the joint terrorism task force's investigation into whether or not the bombers acted alone. we will see where that goes. shep? >> shepard: mike bow detective from mike...
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tamerlan didn't come right in the beginning. so he had a lot of moves, a lot of difficult things -- jenna: if i could, anne, even considering that very dynamic past if that is, indeed, the case, and we showed a little bit of the interview with the teacher, people go through that, and not everyone becomes a terrorist. so what would be the tipping point, if you will, for someone in a state, a mental state where there's ptsd or other side to, again, switch to terrorism? >> the way these groups work, they take a vulnerable individual which he was, and they expose them to a terrorist ideology, and the current militant jihadi ideology has a narrative where they feel sorry for muslims that they claim are oppressed around the world, and they instigate for fighting back against western powers that are supposedly hurting muslims around the world. he uploaded a video of the syrian uprising showing that he felt sympathy for what assad was doing to the syrian people there, which was very similar to what happened to the chechnyan people. a lo
tamerlan didn't come right in the beginning. so he had a lot of moves, a lot of difficult things -- jenna: if i could, anne, even considering that very dynamic past if that is, indeed, the case, and we showed a little bit of the interview with the teacher, people go through that, and not everyone becomes a terrorist. so what would be the tipping point, if you will, for someone in a state, a mental state where there's ptsd or other side to, again, switch to terrorism? >> the way these...
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suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. suspect number two, dzhokhar tsnaraev, his younger brother, age 19, still unaccounted for. jennifer griffin is live with our national security view on this from our bureau in washington, d.c. we're told they have ties to chechnya. that they could be russian- born but chechnya according to their ethnicity. they spent some time there at least at a younger age, jennifer. what more do we have on that? >> reporter: that is really interesting. when i heard of the name of the younger one, the one with the white cap who is still on the loose, the name dzhokar was very familiar to me. the dzhokar dudivey first president of chechnya was killed. had a violent death by the russians when he used his satellite phone, two missiles came out of the sky and killed him. i remember being in lebanon at the time and remember when he was killed, he was killed in chechnya on april 21st, which of course is coming up this weekend, this sunday. that made me think if these two are chechen nationalists in some wa
suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. suspect number two, dzhokhar tsnaraev, his younger brother, age 19, still unaccounted for. jennifer griffin is live with our national security view on this from our bureau in washington, d.c. we're told they have ties to chechnya. that they could be russian- born but chechnya according to their ethnicity. they spent some time there at least at a younger age, jennifer. what more do we have on that? >> reporter: that is really interesting. when i heard of...
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tamerlan was involved in mixed martial arts. he was a golden gloves boxer who won an award for best boxer in his weight class. tamerlan t tsarnaev was arrested in 2011 for assaulting his girlfriend. it's unknown if they were still dating at the time. he was enrolled off ad on in a community college. he was said to be working odd jobs and a.p. is just now reporting that last year he traveled to russia outf jfk and he was gone for six months. his 19-year-old brother diso dzr tsarnaev is a student at the university of massachusetts dartmouth. his father said he is a second year med student. that's not been confirmed. he wrestled in high school, was said to be a star athlete and student. those who know him say he was well like, very kind, and they're very shocked to hear about this. he has a page on the russian equivalent of facebook where he says he is muslim and that his personal goals are career and money. his father called him a true angel. his uncle, who lives in maryland, was not nearly as kind. listen. >> th i say what i thin
tamerlan was involved in mixed martial arts. he was a golden gloves boxer who won an award for best boxer in his weight class. tamerlan t tsarnaev was arrested in 2011 for assaulting his girlfriend. it's unknown if they were still dating at the time. he was enrolled off ad on in a community college. he was said to be working odd jobs and a.p. is just now reporting that last year he traveled to russia outf jfk and he was gone for six months. his 19-year-old brother diso dzr tsarnaev is a student...
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>> well, yes, tamerlan was married. and we had one child and apparently living with her parents from north kings town rhode island about an hour from boston. we do know the fbi visited her parents' how many where she was living at least three times on sunday. what's not clear is whether they have interviewed her officially or whether she has just been cooperative giving them information. clearly the fbi wants to know what she knows because she was. >> >> bill: why didn't they take her in? can you take somebody in for questioning. why isn't she in an interrogation room? >> it's a good question, bill. we don't really know. >> bill: we don't know yet. we don't want to speculate. >> it could simply be that she is cooperating and telling them everything she knows. she does have an attorney, apparently. >> >> bill: it's a little training strange. not getting anything out of the finel are they interrogating her. whatever. we are getting reports that there is an interrogation underway with the younger bomber who is in the hospi
>> well, yes, tamerlan was married. and we had one child and apparently living with her parents from north kings town rhode island about an hour from boston. we do know the fbi visited her parents' how many where she was living at least three times on sunday. what's not clear is whether they have interviewed her officially or whether she has just been cooperative giving them information. clearly the fbi wants to know what she knows because she was. >> >> bill: why didn't they...
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it is taking tamerlan stsarnaev down. he bought two mortar kits at a store. that store is in the same chain that sold time square bomers the what he need to do make his bomb. molly has the latest for us. >> good morning path at thti an heather. he has been upgraded initially listed in serious condition, now he is listed in fair condition. and we are getting some new information about who authorities would like to speak with in the coming days and weeks federal authorities asking to inted view the famili-- inte family members. american investigators traveled to russia yesterday to question the father of the brothers. u.s. em pass see officials told the associated press. here at home fbi officials are questioning the wife of tamerlan a 24-year-old who grew up in rhode island and converted to islam. the two have a daughter together. the lawyers representing her say she knew nothing about the bomb plot and in a statement to the press she is doing everything she can to assist in the investigation. katherine and her family were stunned these reports, by the involve
it is taking tamerlan stsarnaev down. he bought two mortar kits at a store. that store is in the same chain that sold time square bomers the what he need to do make his bomb. molly has the latest for us. >> good morning path at thti an heather. he has been upgraded initially listed in serious condition, now he is listed in fair condition. and we are getting some new information about who authorities would like to speak with in the coming days and weeks federal authorities asking to inted...
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that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the homeland. >> shepard: thank you. if this does make it to trial, the defense strategy is clear. all they want to do is avoid the death penalty. with us, rebecca rosewoodland live in the studio. it's my understanding this guy has a pretty good defense team. a high profile attorney about whom we have information. >> we have a lot of information. miriam conrad is the head of what we call the public defenders office. he said in his hospital bed, the one word he said was, no meaning i cannot afford an attorney. under our constitution we provide defendants with attorneys. we're providing him
that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
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in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> but napolitano's statements chronic with what assistant fbi briefed another lawmaker who is a member of the judiciary committee. >> the fbi told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled so i would like to talk to you more about this case. how this man left. where he went, and when we say there was no broader plot here, i don't know how in the world we know that at this early stage. reporter: napolitano testifying the system that flags border agents to individuals under investigation, like tamerlan tsarnaev, was no longer valid and expired by the time the 26-year-old returned from russ
in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed....
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what they completed missed then, what tamerlan said and did. monica, what do you make of the fbi reportedly talked to him. didn't even know the trips he was taking to russia and chechneya. >> well, i'm a big champion of law enforcement at all levels. big champion of the fbi but i have to say as more and more details come out i'm increasingly disappointed because there were a number of serious lapses with this guy. 20-20 retrospect is always perfect -- >> neil: hundreds of thousands of tips. >> they have done an extraordinary job since 9/11. all of that said there were enough red flags with this particular guy that there should have been a more proper and intense focus on him. remember, 2009, he is arrested on a domestic battery charge. we could have deported him then. we did not. different agency. >> did delay his citizenship. >> remember the timeline, neil. 2011, the russian government, the russian government of all people, right? asks the u.s. government, the fbi to take a closer look at this guy because they suspect he has very intense islam
what they completed missed then, what tamerlan said and did. monica, what do you make of the fbi reportedly talked to him. didn't even know the trips he was taking to russia and chechneya. >> well, i'm a big champion of law enforcement at all levels. big champion of the fbi but i have to say as more and more details come out i'm increasingly disappointed because there were a number of serious lapses with this guy. 20-20 retrospect is always perfect -- >> neil: hundreds of thousands...
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the older brother, tamerlan, had gone to russia for several months. did he make connections there with al qaeda or islamic radicals? or chechenables or whatever. so there are unanswered questions, and they would like to answer them so they can put this case to rest. >> the people in boston and the area of newton and cambridge and watertown, how they're processing this information and when they can get their town back and their lives back. we just received this e-mail alert. this is the first time i received one of these and i've been here five days. channel: extreme threat alert message. i don't know hough they got my e-mail. shelter in police still in effect. shelter in place means you stay where you are. does not prevent employees from huroning home and that's from the massachusetts emergency management agency. mema. this is clearly an effort, chris, for authorities to notify the public, based on the information they feel they need to know, and that is really been an effort since monday afternoon, and some would argue they have been mow successful a
the older brother, tamerlan, had gone to russia for several months. did he make connections there with al qaeda or islamic radicals? or chechenables or whatever. so there are unanswered questions, and they would like to answer them so they can put this case to rest. >> the people in boston and the area of newton and cambridge and watertown, how they're processing this information and when they can get their town back and their lives back. we just received this e-mail alert. this is the...
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with tamerlan tsarnaev who died on friday night. boston seven days after the attack. but we begin with chief washington correspondent james rosen and stunning news of another planned attack of terror. good evening, james. >> bret, good evening. canadian officials announced today they arrested two men this afternoon and charged them with plotting with the aid of al qaeda to blow up a passenger train traveling from new york to the greater torrent area. the alleged terrorist are age 30 and are raheed of toronto. they worked with canadian intelligence and u.s. national security and law enforcement officers to interrupt this alleged plot in an 8 month investigation code named project smooth. they said the plot was detected early on and neither american nor canadian citizens faced any imminent threat as a result. u.s. officials told fox news the defendants' objective was to blow up a bridge in the tore torrent area tornted while the plane was traveling over it mounted police told reporters today that they took steps to advance the plot including allegedly conducting own sur
with tamerlan tsarnaev who died on friday night. boston seven days after the attack. but we begin with chief washington correspondent james rosen and stunning news of another planned attack of terror. good evening, james. >> bret, good evening. canadian officials announced today they arrested two men this afternoon and charged them with plotting with the aid of al qaeda to blow up a passenger train traveling from new york to the greater torrent area. the alleged terrorist are age 30 and...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
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the late tamerlan tsarnaev paid to dagestan in 2012. the parents are reportedly telling authorities that no contact was made between him and radical islamist there is. a group is claiming the same thing. there are a lot of questions about that trip. different reasons for him going. conflicting timelines where he was, who he was with. a lot of focus on one mosque in dagestan tamerlan said to have attended during the trip and a prior one. it is a salafist mosque, a extreme mosque one which radicals have attended. there is one report russian officials think he did make contact several times with an extremist, bill. bill: greg, we don't know when this man turned, whether it was in the u.s. in boston or whether it was overseas. what is the working theory on behalf of authorities when tamerlan, the older brother, could have been radicalized? >> reporter: very good question. it is always a possibility that the turning happened exactly there in that country but in fact he was, we believe, closely watched. our own amy kellogg here speaking to a
the late tamerlan tsarnaev paid to dagestan in 2012. the parents are reportedly telling authorities that no contact was made between him and radical islamist there is. a group is claiming the same thing. there are a lot of questions about that trip. different reasons for him going. conflicting timelines where he was, who he was with. a lot of focus on one mosque in dagestan tamerlan said to have attended during the trip and a prior one. it is a salafist mosque, a extreme mosque one which...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
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he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in, he knew them. >> steve: investigators at the time thought it could be drug related because in addition to having their throats slit, they were covered with marijuana. so they said okay. this is suspicious. didn't talk to him. now suddenly this is a lead. >> brian: let's talk about canada. salute the canadians, they have thwarted a plot that al-qaeda was putting together before it was implemented that would have them blowing up a train that was going from canada to the u.s. nome did they say it was al-qaeda inspired,
he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in,...
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that's according to her attorney, who also claims his client had no idea that tamerlan tsarnaev might have been planning any kind of attack. the couple reportedly met at a nightclub, and after they start dating, she is said to have converted from christianity to islam. they're believed to have gotten north carolina 2009 or two 20 and she is now caring for their three-year-old daughter. but catherine russell tsarnaev -- her name -- her attorney claims she had been working seven days a week and had not been seeing much of her husband at all, which she said would explain why she nope what he was up to. now the feds are asking to speak with the wife themselves. jonathan hunt is in studio this afternoon. where is this woman right now? do we even know? >> as far as we know, shep, catherine russell tsarnaev is currently at her parent' home in north kingstown rhode island. federal agents were at the home, apparently seeking to speak to her, but her lawyer is the only wound has spoken to the fed cozy the said, i spoke to them, that's all i can say right now. we're deciding what we want to do a
that's according to her attorney, who also claims his client had no idea that tamerlan tsarnaev might have been planning any kind of attack. the couple reportedly met at a nightclub, and after they start dating, she is said to have converted from christianity to islam. they're believed to have gotten north carolina 2009 or two 20 and she is now caring for their three-year-old daughter. but catherine russell tsarnaev -- her name -- her attorney claims she had been working seven days a week and...
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did go talk to tamerlan. what if they didn't find anything, he wasn't doing anything radical? >> i don't know what you think you're going to find and they say no, i'm not. i think the fact that the russian government told us that this is a guy that is a possible terrorist, a couple of his husband preliminary sympathies were expressed should have been enough to put him on a list. then when he went to russia, somebody should have said, what's this guy doing in russia for six months and nobody asked, how is he supporting himself? russia, six months? no salary? an american can't do that. >> steve: apparently they have welfare up in massachusetts. >> it costs a lot of money to travel to russia. >> brian: mr. mayor, i could actually add to that because port gossage was heard, he believes there was little coordination between the f.b.i. and c.i.a. in this respect. he goes to russia and then goes from there, it looks like to one of the most vicious places in the world where they train the worst of the worst. by the way, he went to visit his dad, who knows nothing about what happened t
did go talk to tamerlan. what if they didn't find anything, he wasn't doing anything radical? >> i don't know what you think you're going to find and they say no, i'm not. i think the fact that the russian government told us that this is a guy that is a possible terrorist, a couple of his husband preliminary sympathies were expressed should have been enough to put him on a list. then when he went to russia, somebody should have said, what's this guy doing in russia for six months and...
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he was putting out jihadist videos, young tamerlan, 26-year-old. no fisa request to continue to surveil this guy? where are all the things we put in place that were so controversial should have had him on loss of lots of lists right? >> it should have. designation of him of someone of concern by the government should put him in a category that is really pretty sear us are. that doesn't happen a lot, that a foreign government tells you watch this guy, he is a terrorist. also the russians had no particular reason to focus on this guy. this man wasn't an enemy of putin. he wasn't someone who was politically involved in russia. basically they gave us this information for our own good. we should have done a lot more to follow up on it. martha: that is big part of this story i think we'll learn the lessons what happened here going forward. >> this is the first one we've blown. attorney general mukasey wrote a article yesterday. martha: great article. >> five situations where the fbi did similar type of things. i think fbi is getting wrong signals from th
he was putting out jihadist videos, young tamerlan, 26-year-old. no fisa request to continue to surveil this guy? where are all the things we put in place that were so controversial should have had him on loss of lots of lists right? >> it should have. designation of him of someone of concern by the government should put him in a category that is really pretty sear us are. that doesn't happen a lot, that a foreign government tells you watch this guy, he is a terrorist. also the russians...